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  1. Bleu56 Wed 16 Oct 2024 10:26AM UTC

    Exactly, Arthur chose Gwen and gives her everything, while Merlin is just a replacement, he always comes after. Merlin deserves better than playing second fiddle.

    I just think there's always someone we love more and Arthur chose Gwen before Merlin so yeah he doesn't deserve Merlin who always chose him

    Last Edited Wed 16 Oct 2024 10:32AM UTC

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    1. Theroundbartable Wed 16 Oct 2024 05:28PM UTC

      No, I don't think that's what I was saying. But we can disagree at this point.

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    2. Theroundbartable Fri 18 Oct 2024 07:26AM UTC

      So, little change of attitude here because I asked around a bit.

      Did you know that you're a user who is known for making very specific and weird comments on ao3? About how Merlin isn't treated "right" in fics that are specifically Mergwenthur, or at least have Arwen in it?

      I want to believe that you're genuine in your comments, because you seem to try to be nice, but from what I saw, your takes are forcedly read into texts.
      You're making quite a few ao3 authors uncomfortable to the point where three people have reached out to me separately, knowing your username without me ever mentioning it.

      I'm asking you now to maybe reconsider how you write comments and what you're trying to tell the authors. I've tried to take what you said into account of criticism, because I don't remember most of what I've written. After rereading, I felt that your criticism was, however, twisting the words of my fic, which was why I reached out for a second opinion and it's how I got here.

      I don't know what your angle is and I would love to hear what your stance is on this. I would find it unfair and wrong to leave you in the dark, if you are, in fact, genuine. And if you are, and you're not trolling, then I want you to be aware of what your words are doing to us. Because accusations like that can be demotivating.

      I hope you understand why I felt the need to reach out to you again.

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      1. Bleu56 Fri 18 Oct 2024 02:59PM UTC

        hey,
        wow okay, i don't know what you're talking about when you say you didn't know if you should leave me in the dark.
        and as for the two or three you're talking about i don't know who they are but if it's the one who blocked me when i just asked a question, she said it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense as long as it makes sense to me and blocked me because she obviously didn't even know where she was going with her fic i don't care or the other one who i just said i didn't like even if it was a pure merthur fic without arwen. i don't care either
        otherwise there's another one she's super angry when i was talking quietly with the author friendly and all.
        I don't know either what you call a lot of uncomfortable people,
        anyway I have the impression that with most of the people I discuss in comments there is no animosity.
        plus I don't see why you felt obliged to do research on me I checked and I commented on two of your fics one you gave me the answer okay cool I think I didn't even answer your answer and the one for this fic I gave you my point of view you gave me yours that's it I didn't even insist it's the others who got on their high horses while I was just talking about something that didn't seem logical to me I didn't even give any points of view, you clarified this point and it's good I'll move on it's just his fics.
        plus I don't understand if we write and publish we must necessarily expect criticism either negative or positive

        anyway I'm going to make a list of those who I think could be the ones who talked about me and I'm going to avoid their path by blocking them or they block me finally
        I'm also going to stop commenting on your fics since apparently you're so uncomfortable.

        since apparently i make so many people uncomfortable, if you could spread the word to your little group and tell them to block me, that would be a huge favor. Thanks.

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        1. Theroundbartable Fri 18 Oct 2024 06:06PM UTC

          The reason I feel uncomfortable is because your criticism is based on a bias that you have on the way Merlin is treated in fics. Your claims are not supported by the stories themselves (mine is more ambiguous than others) and the people I talked to were authors who felt attacked because of that fact. They may have talked politely with you, but that doesn't mean they felt you came from a genuine place.

          I asked for a second opinion because I was unsure whether what you said about my fic was correct. I wanted a more objective opinion to take your criticism seriously and question where I might have gone wrong in my writing. Because I don't think I ever made Merlin a replacement, but if I wrote it wrong, then maybe there was something I was missing. I didn't do research on you, I was warned OF you.

          Through that process, I was told that you keep doing this to fics where it's completely unfounded. And that it happens in Merthur fics more than Mergwenthur does not make this better.

          I told you about these conversations because I wanted to be fair to you, listen to your side and make you understand how your actions affect us. We're not the only ones who should be able to take criticism, you should be able to bare the consequences of your actions too. That's how freedom of speech works.
          And that these authors blocked you supports my claim, it doesn't make you look better.

          Because if it's just something you keep stating, if it's not connected to the fics, if it's not even relevant to the story, then it is NOT criticism. And if it keeps affecting the authors, and we keep feeling uncomfortable being attacked so randomly, when we spent our free time working on these fics, if it is more than three people who feel that way about you, then it's not us who are the problem. Then there is a pattern. And that pattern is you.

          I want to be fair to you. I want to make you aware that this kind of behavior is what makes authors stop writing, that it affects our motivation. I want to give you the chance to reconsider what you write to people. Mos people don't do this work to be criticised, but to share something they love doing, something they don't want to be judged for.

          I am taking you seriously and I hope you will take me seriously as well, because this is important for you to understand.

          And finally, to be blunt, yes, I am uncomfortable with comments of that sort, but I will not block you. I will, however, be grateful if you don't engage with my fics anymore. At least not like this. Criticism works differently and I think you have to learn a few things in that regard.

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          1. Bleu56 Fri 18 Oct 2024 06:39PM UTC

            I don't think I have any lessons to receive from you, frankly I have my opinion on the fact of feeling attacked by the fact that I say what is true about their story.

            I didn't understand, take seriously what?

            Believe me I have no intention of showing interest in any of your work

            That it's not their work if it's public for people to read it goes without saying that people will form an opinion.

            I hope that since you volunteered to be the spokesperson for such a large group of people that I make uncomfortable, that you passed on the message to block me so that I would know directly that if in the future I come across their fic I should move on.

            Or maybe if I have the list and I block them their work will no longer appear to me, I don't know

            Anyway, I wish you good luck for the next. Bye

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            1. Theroundbartable Fri 18 Oct 2024 10:18PM UTC

              Okay, fine. But since we're being honest about our opinions right now, I think all your comments are showing is that you hate Gwen.

              That's what I think and you'll have to accept that too.

              I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and I will take this comment of yours as permission to share this comment section to warn other users of you, so they can block you.

              Thank you for your time.

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              1. Bleu56 Sat 19 Oct 2024 12:44AM UTC

                I didn't say to tell everyone to block and go make up rumors about me

                I told those who apparently told you they were uncomfortable with my comments to block me

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                1. Theroundbartable Sat 19 Oct 2024 05:45AM UTC

                  Your're twisting my words again. I'm letting them make their own decision.

                  If I wanted them to block you, I would have blocked you myself. If I wanted to make up rumors, I wouldn't include evidence or keep considering your words.

                  I'm showing them my side and yours in this comment thread via links and screenshots. The same way those other authors showed me their screenshots to explain to me how they felt. Only that I also have your pov in it, since I bothered to ask you for it. In that case, if they find me unreasonable, they won't bother with it and move on.

                  If other people too feel uncomfortable with these kinds of comments, then I've cut your work in half as well, since you agreed that such people should block you.

                  I honestly don't know what you want from me. To use your own words: you've put these comments on a public website. You'll have to be able to deal with the criticism you receive. Positive and negative.
                  In my personal opinion, this also includes the consequences of your actions.

                  I've had to bear such a conversation too, once. We all make mistakes. But since you haven't yet understood what the problem with these comments is, I'll let you stick this one out for now. I don't mean you ill. I mean for other authors to feel comfortable on a website that was designed to not let them be judged for their story choices. If you don't like it, don't read it. That's the rule and you have ignored that. And you don't even see it.
                  Maybe you should try putting a fanfic out here first, or maybe someone has to push back instead of blocking you for once. I don't know. If this were solely about me I would have blocked you as well. But it isn't. So you're stuck with me pushing back.

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